April 4, 2013 at 4:07 pm #2003dartymoorParticipant
It seems the letterboxer’s code of conduct has changed since I last read it.
They say you should not look for letterboxes…
” On Dartmoor’s vulnerable ground – nesting bird sites from late March until mid July; in particular the Cut Hill / Fur Tor area (GR 59 82, GR 5883), Tavy Cleave (GR 55 83), Headland Warren (GR 68 81, GR 69 81) and the quarries at Swell Tor (GR 56 73).”
I really hope this doesn’t extend to geocaches. I tend to leave remote areas like Cut Hill to summertime, and if this was enforced it would make a very narrow walking/caching window for me and others.
There’s several other restrictions I’ve not noticed before too, all of which seem to make it harder to box.April 4, 2013 at 6:47 pm #2005reb10Participant
I follow a rule that i heard of years ago that says if a bird takes off nearby don’t walk towards where it took off from but away from it or towards where the bird flew to. The idea being that when a nesting bird senses a predator it will take off to lure it away from the nest.
As for the letterbox code i can remember years ago in the days i used to do a little bit of letterboxing boxers were asked to keep away from certain areas in the nesting season, so the same should apply to cachers. And its in the guidelines not to place caches that will disturb wildlife.April 4, 2013 at 11:46 pm #2010Dartmoor DaveKeymaster
Just a little background on this subject. Two years ago, for some unknown reason, the Dartmoor National Park Authority removed their detailed Letterboxing Guidelines from their web site. Nobody noticed this for about a year when suddenly somebody at GAGB noticed that the link from the land owners database to the DNPA no longer worked. The reviewers interpreted this to mean that the DNPA had removed their permission for us to place geocaches in SSSIs. Nothing could be further from the truth as their stance on geocaching (and letterboxing) had not changed. However, the reviewers stopped us placing geocaches in SSSIs.
I decided that action was needed and spent the next 2 months negotiating a set of new geocaching guidelines that were not connected with letterboxing. Negotiating with the DNPA was fairly easy, but it was much more difficult to get the reviewers to accept the new agreement. Eventually I had a new agreement in place which was accepted by all parties and which was published on this web site and we were up and running again.
During these negotiations with the DNPA the question of nesting sites and several other similar issues were discussed, but it was agreed that these would not be included in the guidelines, rather the DNPA would keep a eye on the placement of geocaches and see how it developed. This is still the situation today and although the odd geocache has been placed there is certainly no concentration of such caches. When I placed my recent caches I ensured that I avoided the Tavy Cleave and placed one at each end.
In reality these remote caches get almost no visitors. The Cut Hill Wilderness cache has only ever had 65 finds in nearly 4 years and only 10 in the last year. The impact of these caches is negligible when compared with other footfall on the moor. For example something like 10,000 Ten Tors visitors each year, the majority in the bird nesting season, and countless DofE and other activities.
It is also worth remembering that whilst geocaching and letterboxing are similar activities they are not the same. Geocaching is far more rigourously policed than letterboxing as anybody who has tried to place a cache will know. We are often made to jump through hoops to get a placement, whereas there are no formal controls for letterboxing at all. Geocaches have to be maintained and they are constantly monitored and abandoned caches quickly taken out of play. The same is not true of letterboxing and there must be at least a 100 letterboxes on the moor for each geocache, many of them totally abandoned.
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